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Post by zoooo on Jul 17, 2006 17:38:23 GMT
Well, I'm certainly not "the naive one". Everything I purchase, apply, etc. - I do wittingly. Hoping for the best results. I can either quit with something or continue with it. No Vet can force me into something I do not agree with. But I somehow think my Vet knows where the limits are. I also believe that animal testing is present even within animal food producing companies. How hypocritical! We had an affair last year with beagles being locked up in small cages at Veterinary faculty, their femurs fractured to test a bone-healing drug. BIG, and at the end very controversial affair. They saved all the dogs and rehomed them. Major media coverage. The whole story left the bitter taste, 'cause everyone was soooo bothered how "poor cute little puppies" were horribly treated, and NO ONE wanted to know what happens to rabbits, rats, apes, horses, sheep, etc. I'm sick when people's perception of the world around them narrows down to that. And there is another question... would we or wouldn't we buy a medicine for our own pet which was tested on some other animal? Same goes for human drugs... where do we draw the line of compassion?
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Post by rob on Jul 17, 2006 20:01:35 GMT
Well, I'm certainly not "the naive one". I am not sure if that was for my benefit but I know for sure that I didnt call anybody naive?
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Post by zoooo on Jul 17, 2006 20:57:13 GMT
of course it wasn't on your behalf. i was expressing the anger of a pet owner when discovering that someone was playing with his emotions as well as with his finances. isn't that what meaning of "naive" is? that can easily happen to a newly-owned human (never before ruled by any pet). doesn't know anything... adores his pet.... worries way too much. trusts his Vet beyond any doubt.
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Post by chrisleitz on Jul 18, 2006 8:13:58 GMT
T, it looks like there is slight inprovement with the boys being on this special diet. It may need a few more weeks to get even better. Let's hope it continues and that their tummies settle. I keep everything crossed.
A friend of mine has a cat that is a Celiac, so is allergic to gluten. This cat was at some stage so poorly that they were thinking of putting her to sleep. It took the vet ages to find out what was wrong. You can imagine how difficult it is to feed her cat, as standard cat food is mainly wheat and only a minimum amount of meat (4%). She has to have her now on a gluten free diet and the cat is so much better. I think if you can pinpoint what exactly the problem is, then spending the money on some special foods makes sense.
As regards to testing, well I suppose the food has to be taste tested. It's the circumstances and conditions the animals are kept in that need to be immensely improved. I personally have stopped buying Iams because of the way they tested.
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Post by zoooo on Jul 18, 2006 14:16:02 GMT
I guess we should have done some serious monitoring. An Excel chart for each of the boys. Dates (since the beginning of therapy) vs number of vomits (per day). ;D ;D ;D Too late for that now...
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Post by zoooo on Jul 19, 2006 16:06:13 GMT
Orlando showed us a new vomiting-trick yesterday. ;D ;D ;D He can actually throw-up while running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was making prior-to-vomit-sounds under the chair I was sitting on, I jumped to move him, and that scared him so much that he ran off and threw up as he was in motion. Imagine THAT splash of vomit on the floor! There are only two words I can think of: BRAVO ORLANDO! Well done.
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Post by chrisleitz on Jul 19, 2006 16:44:46 GMT
Oh T, that made me laugh (and I shouldn't really) ;D
Poor Orlando.
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